16 May 2011
Budapest
Great Synagogue
Parked- Haller Camping RV Park, in the city
Budapest
Great Synagogue
Parked- Haller Camping RV Park, in the city
17 May 2011
Budapest
Castle Hill, Royal Palace,
Parked- Haller camping
We are back in civilization, Budapest Hungary. The Hungarians of the Astro-Hungarian Empire would have agreed with me, but most of the world for the past 100 years or just didn’t know how nice this city is. It is still recovering from 70 years of communism We had our first sign of civilization once we crossed the Serbian border and the roads became consistently like glass, like most highways in the states. Our second sign, or event was the sighting of a Tesco store, Europe’s version of Wallmart. We went on a shopping spree and used our American express card for the first time in months- for food and diesel, which was good because I double paid 4 months ago and we had credit sitting in that account. Now we are in the first real RV park since England, with nice showers and facilities. It is expensive, $45 a night, but I use more hot water per shower than the family uses in 10 days on the road. We are right near a metro and within a few miles of the city center. So I sit here on a sunny morning after a long shower and a hot coffee, surrounded by other RVs, waiting for Shannon and Stef to get back from the track which is right across the street so we can head out for a day of touring. When you are so comfortable you realize how challenging things were at times on the trip, but they never seemed a challenge at that time.
Budapest
Castle Hill, Royal Palace,
Parked- Haller camping
We are back in civilization, Budapest Hungary. The Hungarians of the Astro-Hungarian Empire would have agreed with me, but most of the world for the past 100 years or just didn’t know how nice this city is. It is still recovering from 70 years of communism We had our first sign of civilization once we crossed the Serbian border and the roads became consistently like glass, like most highways in the states. Our second sign, or event was the sighting of a Tesco store, Europe’s version of Wallmart. We went on a shopping spree and used our American express card for the first time in months- for food and diesel, which was good because I double paid 4 months ago and we had credit sitting in that account. Now we are in the first real RV park since England, with nice showers and facilities. It is expensive, $45 a night, but I use more hot water per shower than the family uses in 10 days on the road. We are right near a metro and within a few miles of the city center. So I sit here on a sunny morning after a long shower and a hot coffee, surrounded by other RVs, waiting for Shannon and Stef to get back from the track which is right across the street so we can head out for a day of touring. When you are so comfortable you realize how challenging things were at times on the trip, but they never seemed a challenge at that time.
18 May 2011
Budapest
Parked-Haller Camping
Budapest
Parked-Haller Camping
19 May 2011
Budapest
Museum of Ethnography, St Istvan's Cathedral, Hero's square, Anonymous's Statue, Szechenyi Baths, State Opera House
Parked- Haller camping
Budapest
Museum of Ethnography, St Istvan's Cathedral, Hero's square, Anonymous's Statue, Szechenyi Baths, State Opera House
Parked- Haller camping
20 May 2011
Budapest
Memorial Park
Parked- Memorial Park
Budapest
Memorial Park
Parked- Memorial Park
4 days of touring, time to fill the tanks and go. Stef washed clothes yesterday and last night, sheets this time around and we will relax in the RV park this morning before heading out around 1200. That is if we can get out of here. The road outside the RV park has filled up and I’m not sure I can maneuver out. If not we spend another night on the parks dime. We went to the opera last night. The opera house was built in 1896 to rival anything in Europe and it is pretty impressive. The cost of a tour was the same as the cost of a show so we dressed up and went into town. The opera was painfully long with no intermission, but it was fun to laugh about after and make guesses at what it was all about. We had no idea at anytime what was going on. We spent the afternoon yesterday at the thermal spa, very nice. Budapest is a beautiful city, built as the capitol of an empire that ended before it got going. Hope all is well at home, we’ll post some pictures today. We are off to Eger Hungary and then up into Slovakia for a rafting adventure.
21 May 2011
Eger Hungary
Parked- on the main street
Eger Hungary
Parked- on the main street
22 May 2011
23 May 2011
Spis Castle
Parked- In the parking lot
Spis Castle
Parked- In the parking lot
We are transiting Slovakia, an amazingly beautiful country, struggling economically after the USSR turned it into one huge armaments factory that kept the population busy under communism, but the tank market is down these days.
We did almost nothing today. As I was reading this afternoon, I realized that this is the first day on the trip that I did nothing, every other day had something scheduled. We did go for a nice walk, about 5 miles this morning to a small village, Zethra, that has a nice “onion domed” church. We have been reading about the Slovakian Roma, Gypsies and what a problem they are at 10% of the population. Having 10% of your population concentrating on theft and begging is never good for the economy. As high as 80% unemployment in the Roma community here. They are said to live in communities that are way off in the woods, or in houses that were left by Germans that were kicked out of the country after WWII. We saw some of them today and they really looked terribly poor, and terribly rough. We spent last night, and will spent tonight in the parking lot of Spis castle, high above the village. I was surprised to see no Roma here working the tourists that come to see the castle, generally where there are tourist there is Roma begging and stealing, but not here. We realized today that they keep a “bouncer” in the parking lot, who is there just to keep beggars away. Since it is such a long hard walk up to the castle, just having him here part of the day deters them completely.
We had an unfortunate event yesterday when we stopped for food at a Tesco. I left the transfer pump running and dumped about 5 gallons of diesel fuel onto the ground. We and parked in a truck spot and while gone trucks had blocked us in. I just wanted to get away from there in case there is any laws about spilled fuel, which I’m sure there are, just maybe not enforced. I was very relieved when the truck in front moved out of the way and we were back on the road.
The castle we are parked next to is an impressive ruin, nothing of the interior remains after a fire in 1752. It is very large and still makes a great place to explore, they also had audio guides which is better than school for the children. We had a very high number of interested people come around today, one busload of Dutch that I managed to get past by walking fast, but Stef got caught and had to go through 20 questions- the one they still always bring up is that you could never pull children out of school in their country. I always want to reply that our country treats its citizens like adults, but its beginning to be untrue in the Socialist Republic of America. I hate socialism and it hurts me that despite the lessons of Germany and the USSR, we don’t avoid it like the disease that it is.
24 May 2011
Spis Castle
Parked-Roadside about 7 miles past Spis Castle
Spis Castle
Parked-Roadside about 7 miles past Spis Castle
going to spend the night but rough looking van pulled in so we moved on.
25 May 2011
Levoca Slavakia
Town Hall Museum, Hike to Marianska Church
Parked-Street Parking outside city walls
Levoca Slavakia
Town Hall Museum, Hike to Marianska Church
Parked-Street Parking outside city walls
26-27 May 2011
Slovakia/Polish border Cerveny Klastor
Parked-Rest area along Dunjace RiververDunajce River.
Slovakia/Polish border Cerveny Klastor
Parked-Rest area along Dunjace RiververDunajce River.
Now- we are next to the Polish border, in fact outside the café that Charles and I are in using the Internet is a footbridge that spans over the Danajec river into Poland. We floated the river yesterday for over two hours, then had a beautiful walk back .
Slovakia has really surprised me, it is beautiful and the people very nice- and it is CHEAP. We spent the other night parked outside the walled medieval city of Lavoca where we had a great meal for next to nothing. It was a great visit, interesting history.
The town is grand, nice walls surrounding it, very Germanic in appearance, a walled Alpine village. As it should be, the town was settled and built by Saxons before they were kicked out after WWII when Czechoslovakia exiled everyone of Germanic descent.
A transparent attempt to rob the hard working of what they had built. Just like the Jews in WWII. Everyone says that it was Jews and Gypsy’s that were exterminated in the Nazi concentration camps when in fact the number of Gypsies was very small (relatively) reason being that they had nothing to steal once they were killed. Jealousy and greed drive the worst crimes against humanity.
We will move to an RV park tomorrow to fill up water tanks and hang out before we push on to Krakow, Vienna and Prague.
Slovakia has really surprised me, it is beautiful and the people very nice- and it is CHEAP. We spent the other night parked outside the walled medieval city of Lavoca where we had a great meal for next to nothing. It was a great visit, interesting history.
The town is grand, nice walls surrounding it, very Germanic in appearance, a walled Alpine village. As it should be, the town was settled and built by Saxons before they were kicked out after WWII when Czechoslovakia exiled everyone of Germanic descent.
A transparent attempt to rob the hard working of what they had built. Just like the Jews in WWII. Everyone says that it was Jews and Gypsy’s that were exterminated in the Nazi concentration camps when in fact the number of Gypsies was very small (relatively) reason being that they had nothing to steal once they were killed. Jealousy and greed drive the worst crimes against humanity.
We will move to an RV park tomorrow to fill up water tanks and hang out before we push on to Krakow, Vienna and Prague.
28 May 2011
Chill day
Parked-hlavna brana goralsky dvor Campground
Chill day
Parked-hlavna brana goralsky dvor Campground
29 May 2011
Cerveny Klastor Monastery, Transit to Krakow
Parked-Carrafour Parking lot outside of the city
Cerveny Klastor Monastery, Transit to Krakow
Parked-Carrafour Parking lot outside of the city
30 May 2011
Krakow
Wawal Castle
Parked-Parking lot 1.5 from center
Krakow
Wawal Castle
Parked-Parking lot 1.5 from center
Spent 3 nights in Krakow Poland which the Germans fled from in WWII making one of the best preserved cities in this area. Great visit and like Budapest, very inexpensive
31 May 2011
Krakow, Tempel Synagogue, Church of St Barbara, Gallery of 19th Century Polish Art, Czartoryski Museum
Parking lot
Krakow, Tempel Synagogue, Church of St Barbara, Gallery of 19th Century Polish Art, Czartoryski Museum
Parking lot
1 June 2011
Krakow, Schindler Museum, Culture Museum
Parking Lot
Krakow, Schindler Museum, Culture Museum
Parking Lot
2 June 2011
Auswitz
Aushwitz parking lot
Auswitz
Aushwitz parking lot
3 June 2011
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15 June 2011
Today is a relaxation day. Stef and the girls are going to go into Prague and visit a Communism Museum. I juts want a day off to read, plan the next few weeks, sort through pictures, catch up on correspondence, and watch a movie.
Prague is a great city, one we have heard so much about, but a disappointment after Vienna. We have heard how inexpensive it is and that turned out to be totally wrong.
The tourist industry has discovered Prague, and with the crowds has come high prices.
We are also not used to traveling in the high season, which it is right now. Its hard to get a handle on the Czech Republics’ history, it is so misty and ill-defined, they just seem to have been passed around. Prague is in what used to be Bohemia, part of the Austrian Empire.
We are parked in a great spot (we say that a lot) near the main subway line, but at its farthest end out in the beginnings of the countryside. We found a quiet spot where truck drivers drop their trucks for a few days. It is wooded and country on one side with a grassy hill on the other that hides a commercial area, huge stores similar to Costco and Home Depot. The subway was built to carry people from the city out to the commercial area. I bought ant killer in the “Home Depot” the other day to fight (successfully) a small invasion army of ants that we picked up at one of our stops along the way, and I was surprised at how huge the store was. It is funny, you can tell the large DIY stores in every country, regardless of name, by their uniform “Home Depot” Orange.
Our withdrawal plan is starting to come together. We have booked space for the truck on a ship out of Southampton departing 5 August, arriving in Georgia 20 August. We will have to drop her off 3 August and will have another week in London before we fly to Annapolis for parents weekend. We will pick up the Van and boat in Va where they are stored at Bill Fenton’s place and drive to Jax. Unfortunately we will be unregistered for the transit, we have to re-register the van in person since I don’t have any of the information, title, or old registration with us. I guess some details will fall through the cracks. We’ll rent a car in Jax until we can buy one and get the van registered.
We plan to live in a cabin on the base until the truck arrives and then move back into it down on the River property until the house becomes available in Nov. I wish we could live in it longer and save money but we have to complete our household move by Nov.
I think everyone is excited about a regular life with school and new friends; we’ll save lamenting , life off the road until we’ve been back home for a while.
I need to walk to the other side of the hill to send this from the KFC.
Prague is a great city, one we have heard so much about, but a disappointment after Vienna. We have heard how inexpensive it is and that turned out to be totally wrong.
The tourist industry has discovered Prague, and with the crowds has come high prices.
We are also not used to traveling in the high season, which it is right now. Its hard to get a handle on the Czech Republics’ history, it is so misty and ill-defined, they just seem to have been passed around. Prague is in what used to be Bohemia, part of the Austrian Empire.
We are parked in a great spot (we say that a lot) near the main subway line, but at its farthest end out in the beginnings of the countryside. We found a quiet spot where truck drivers drop their trucks for a few days. It is wooded and country on one side with a grassy hill on the other that hides a commercial area, huge stores similar to Costco and Home Depot. The subway was built to carry people from the city out to the commercial area. I bought ant killer in the “Home Depot” the other day to fight (successfully) a small invasion army of ants that we picked up at one of our stops along the way, and I was surprised at how huge the store was. It is funny, you can tell the large DIY stores in every country, regardless of name, by their uniform “Home Depot” Orange.
Our withdrawal plan is starting to come together. We have booked space for the truck on a ship out of Southampton departing 5 August, arriving in Georgia 20 August. We will have to drop her off 3 August and will have another week in London before we fly to Annapolis for parents weekend. We will pick up the Van and boat in Va where they are stored at Bill Fenton’s place and drive to Jax. Unfortunately we will be unregistered for the transit, we have to re-register the van in person since I don’t have any of the information, title, or old registration with us. I guess some details will fall through the cracks. We’ll rent a car in Jax until we can buy one and get the van registered.
We plan to live in a cabin on the base until the truck arrives and then move back into it down on the River property until the house becomes available in Nov. I wish we could live in it longer and save money but we have to complete our household move by Nov.
I think everyone is excited about a regular life with school and new friends; we’ll save lamenting , life off the road until we’ve been back home for a while.
I need to walk to the other side of the hill to send this from the KFC.
16 June 2011
17 June 2011
18-20 June 2011
Nuremburg, Car Museum
Nuremburg, Car Museum
21 June 2011
Ramstein AFB
Ramstein AFB
22-24 June 2011
Ramstein AFB
25-27 June 2011
Frankfort
Frankfort
We are testing the outer limits of the RV’s endurance here in Vienna. It has been 13 days since we last took on water and 6 days since a holding tank dumpage. That’s what happens when you find a great parking spot in a great city. We intended to pull right into an RV park at $60 a night and take the bus to the metro, but on the way there we happened on a free parking spot next to the metro station, 10 minutes total to get into the center of Vienna. It has been great. The truck doesn’t attract crowds in the city, people are to busy and in a hurry. They zip right by in their cars, we love it. A young couple did knock on Shannon’s window the early the other morning. Shannon just reached up and shut them out. We will have to go to the RV park tomorrow and spend a day, just to get water, wash clothes and slow down the touring a bit.
Vienna has added another piece our Western History puzzle, the Hapsburgs. None of us has ever known much about the Hapsburgs or the Holy Roman Empire, but we are learning now. This city was built over 600 years of Hapsburg rule, everything from Russia, West to Germany, South to the Ottoman Empire. It was at Vienna that the Muslims were turned back in their bid for world domination.
One thing is sure, they built this city to rule an Empire, and all it rules is a small country and lots of tourism. We have been going pretty constant, palaces, museums and monuments. We’ve taken the time for a park or market as well. The girls went to the ballet last night at the grandest Opera house in Europe. Charles and I decided to stay back and guard the RV, truthfully, I have a hard time sitting through a ballet or opera. I love the orchestra, and the dancing isn’t that bad, but the yelling irritates me. Don’t they know there have been great advances in amplifiers? If only amps had been invented 500 years earlier, we wouldn’t have operas at all.
We have one city left with the full team, Prague Czech Republic, and then we transit to Frankfurt. Shannon needs to get some shots and compose herself for Plebe summer. On
the 25th we have an appointment to get our stovetop fixed, Shannon flies out the 27th and then we head for Scandinavia. We are not sure where we will ship the truck from, either Bremerhaven Germany, or Southampton England. The route makes Bremerhaven the clear best choice, but we’ve been through Southampton and speak their language, so I think it will be far easier.
2 july
I think I have gone completely soft. I woke up at 0900 this morning, and am back in bed at 2000, dinner and bath complete, ready to read, write and crash. Last night we were parked next to the beach on the southern coast of Denmark, watching the sailboats transit the channel out our window, planning to hop on a ferry to visit an island where time has stood still since 1600, but we woke to rain and decided to press on towards Copenhagen.
The drive was only 90 miles but was eventful for two things, first the bridge with a toll of nearly $200, and second, running out of gas. Our gage is broken and I thought I had much more fuel in the main tank than I did, I had a full (200 gal) secondary tank and once we transferred fuel and figured out how to prime the engine, we were back on the road. I am so glad I went for instruction at the International dealer before we set out on this. We arrived in a town near Copenhagen that has a great Viking museum and cathedral, and this is where we will spend the night. Copenhagen at 0500 tomorrow, early to get a good parking spot.
Its been a few weeks since I’ve written, things have been good. Shannon is being yelled at as we speak and Stef is desperately looking through the USNA Facebook page trying
to get a glimpse of her. She is going to tear that place apart, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she ends up as Brigade Commander, and I have a bit of experience at these things. I have to admit that it is a bit easier with her gone, we miss her, but the nature of things makes it easier when they fly the nest, plus in this case we have much more room to store stuff, our water goes twice as far, and a paper towel roll lasts for more than a day. She was our consumer.
We arrived at Ramstein AFB in Germany on the 20th, with enough time for Shannon to get all her shots before she flew out. We stayed at Ramstein, in the woods right across the street from the gym, enjoying the showers, exchange and Internet until the night of
26th when we drove to Frankfurt and parked at the place that was going to fix our stove.
The service facility was only a few miles from the airport so while they fixed the stove, we took Shannon to fly out, worked out nice. We then drove from Frankfurt into Denmark and spent the night at the most beautiful rest stop we have seen. We decided to just spend the day there, all went for runs and I went for a bike ride through quintessential Scandinavia. They are very tidy.
Hope to send this today so I’ll wrap up. Denmark is very beautiful, think New England, and very laid back and friendly, but terribly expensive. I love the way they are so tolerant of wacko stuff and “alternative” lifestyles (wacko stuff) I don’t think anyone would think to tell us to move the truck, squatters have a long tradition here, but I don’t think they would be nearly as tolerant without cold winters that drove the vagrants south. There are no Roma here, probably because Denmark is largely on an Island, and the bridge toll was $200 for the truck! It was a very long bridge. We’ll be taking the ferry back from Norway with these bridge tolls. Denmark has a 60% income tax rate and crazy stuff like a 180% tax on cars- but that’s why everybody rides a bike.
We spent yesterday at Tivoli Gardens, an amusement park we have heard lots about, oldest in the world and supposedly very nice. It was nice but after a $20 admission (each) and a $40 ride charge (each child) 160$ entry total, I expected something to do.
By the end of the day I was pleased that the toilets were free and you didn’t have to empty your pockets of loose change when exiting. It was like a nice Cairo, designed to take every cent you came with. In the restaurant they charged a dollar for a small glass of tapwater, I was tempted to take it to the bathroom to refill it. We were led to believe (by Rick Steves the travel writer) that you pay the entry, enter, and enjoy a day full of entertainment for one low fee. The only entertainment was a 4 piece band that played once an hour and a drunk in a blue-headed bear costume that was let out once an hour for children to take pictures with. (I have no idea if he was a drunk, that’s just what I imagined by the end of the day)
In all; it was a disappointment for the parents, a great time for the children, so overall worthwhile, we don’t have many kid type days.
Today we are planning a walking tour through Copenhagen and a visit to the National museum. It rained all night but has conveniently stopped for the days events.
We are in final planning for the return, Stef has made all the hotel and rental car arrangements and I am still working the shipping arrangements, not much left to do.
Grace is putting the finishing touches on he American Girl magazine article scheduled for the dec issue. They have decided to run 17 pictures and a map of the route, Grace is very excited. It will be great for her in a new school, she is pretty shy and won’t have to explain the trip quite as often. I never did get a reply from Motorhome magazine about the article I sent them. To be rejected by such a prestigious magazine is a real blow to the ego.
Life after travel looks pretty good. I am back at the design board, working on a 22 ft utility boat to use around the River lot and the big 70 Ft River boat that I won’t start building until Grace is out of the house. Need to sell the Orange Park house to fund the boat. I really think I would have no problem living in this RV full time- but only after children, even with the separate rooms it starts to get crowded in here at times, thank God for headphones.
I think I have gone completely soft. I woke up at 0900 this morning, and am back in bed at 2000, dinner and bath complete, ready to read, write and crash. Last night we were parked next to the beach on the southern coast of Denmark, watching the sailboats transit the channel out our window, planning to hop on a ferry to visit an island where time has stood still since 1600, but we woke to rain and decided to press on towards Copenhagen.
The drive was only 90 miles but was eventful for two things, first the bridge with a toll of nearly $200, and second, running out of gas. Our gage is broken and I thought I had much more fuel in the main tank than I did, I had a full (200 gal) secondary tank and once we transferred fuel and figured out how to prime the engine, we were back on the road. I am so glad I went for instruction at the International dealer before we set out on this. We arrived in a town near Copenhagen that has a great Viking museum and cathedral, and this is where we will spend the night. Copenhagen at 0500 tomorrow, early to get a good parking spot.
Its been a few weeks since I’ve written, things have been good. Shannon is being yelled at as we speak and Stef is desperately looking through the USNA Facebook page trying
to get a glimpse of her. She is going to tear that place apart, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she ends up as Brigade Commander, and I have a bit of experience at these things. I have to admit that it is a bit easier with her gone, we miss her, but the nature of things makes it easier when they fly the nest, plus in this case we have much more room to store stuff, our water goes twice as far, and a paper towel roll lasts for more than a day. She was our consumer.
We arrived at Ramstein AFB in Germany on the 20th, with enough time for Shannon to get all her shots before she flew out. We stayed at Ramstein, in the woods right across the street from the gym, enjoying the showers, exchange and Internet until the night of
26th when we drove to Frankfurt and parked at the place that was going to fix our stove.
The service facility was only a few miles from the airport so while they fixed the stove, we took Shannon to fly out, worked out nice. We then drove from Frankfurt into Denmark and spent the night at the most beautiful rest stop we have seen. We decided to just spend the day there, all went for runs and I went for a bike ride through quintessential Scandinavia. They are very tidy.
Hope to send this today so I’ll wrap up. Denmark is very beautiful, think New England, and very laid back and friendly, but terribly expensive. I love the way they are so tolerant of wacko stuff and “alternative” lifestyles (wacko stuff) I don’t think anyone would think to tell us to move the truck, squatters have a long tradition here, but I don’t think they would be nearly as tolerant without cold winters that drove the vagrants south. There are no Roma here, probably because Denmark is largely on an Island, and the bridge toll was $200 for the truck! It was a very long bridge. We’ll be taking the ferry back from Norway with these bridge tolls. Denmark has a 60% income tax rate and crazy stuff like a 180% tax on cars- but that’s why everybody rides a bike.
We spent yesterday at Tivoli Gardens, an amusement park we have heard lots about, oldest in the world and supposedly very nice. It was nice but after a $20 admission (each) and a $40 ride charge (each child) 160$ entry total, I expected something to do.
By the end of the day I was pleased that the toilets were free and you didn’t have to empty your pockets of loose change when exiting. It was like a nice Cairo, designed to take every cent you came with. In the restaurant they charged a dollar for a small glass of tapwater, I was tempted to take it to the bathroom to refill it. We were led to believe (by Rick Steves the travel writer) that you pay the entry, enter, and enjoy a day full of entertainment for one low fee. The only entertainment was a 4 piece band that played once an hour and a drunk in a blue-headed bear costume that was let out once an hour for children to take pictures with. (I have no idea if he was a drunk, that’s just what I imagined by the end of the day)
In all; it was a disappointment for the parents, a great time for the children, so overall worthwhile, we don’t have many kid type days.
Today we are planning a walking tour through Copenhagen and a visit to the National museum. It rained all night but has conveniently stopped for the days events.
We are in final planning for the return, Stef has made all the hotel and rental car arrangements and I am still working the shipping arrangements, not much left to do.
Grace is putting the finishing touches on he American Girl magazine article scheduled for the dec issue. They have decided to run 17 pictures and a map of the route, Grace is very excited. It will be great for her in a new school, she is pretty shy and won’t have to explain the trip quite as often. I never did get a reply from Motorhome magazine about the article I sent them. To be rejected by such a prestigious magazine is a real blow to the ego.
Life after travel looks pretty good. I am back at the design board, working on a 22 ft utility boat to use around the River lot and the big 70 Ft River boat that I won’t start building until Grace is out of the house. Need to sell the Orange Park house to fund the boat. I really think I would have no problem living in this RV full time- but only after children, even with the separate rooms it starts to get crowded in here at times, thank God for headphones.